However, theres already enough Sydney teams so doing it with an area like Perth makes sense. Still dont understand what idiot thought putting arch enemies together would work. The team shared home games between Brookvale Oval and Central Coast Stadium, Gosford, New South Wales. A historic quote for the family. "If Souths dont agree with what were doing and decide its not in our interest, we will look at the other avenues we have to ensure we have a competitive ISP side. And the dominant partner eventually killed and ate their Siamese twin, and took the license for themselves, for they are nothing if not their own people. There are hundreds of thousands of Bears people, just like me, who will invoke the same, mechanised caution at the prospect of a miracle: a return to first grade, footy at Bear Park, even just once a year, in the red and black. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. Please call 1800 070 535. Peter Vlandys is often asked when the NRL will bring back the Bears. In the fifty years the new building has stood, a number of redesigns and refurbishments have taken place. Madness, of course. I can see how that might appear. Like Illawarra got the socks in their merger and the Magpies got Campbelltown occasionally, the Bears got shafted in their merger. Youve got the big business of North Sydney, youve got the Peninsula, then youve got the people of the Central Coast, the numbers, it would be nearly a behemoth of a club if it had the right administration and the right people behind it. On 8 November 2022, the Sydney Roosters announced that they would be ending their partnership deal with North Sydney at the end of the 2023 season. Editor Matt Cleary is an award-winning sports writer, contributor to The Guardian, Inside Sport, Big League and Inside Rugby, among several dozen other journals. the fun and become a member of the community, You can share sports stories, experiences, match reports, But they never won that premiership, they strategically blundered with Super League, and they fizzled into insolvency, enduring the humiliation of what former president David Hill described as the sacrilegious merger with Manly before the expulsion of the Bears by the Forces of Darkness. It also explains how you can access or seek correction of your personal information, how you can complain about a breach of the Australian Privacy Principles and how we will deal with a complaint of that nature. There are a million reasons why. Then it was the Western Bears. And they dont have a footy team to call their own. The Bears are not in agreement with anyone, Dickson told SENZ Breakfast Radio recently. The foundation club exited the league in 1999, before their failed merger with Manly ended in 2003. Only Parramatta (890,000) and Wests Tigers (690,000) have a larger catchment than North Sydney Bears would have. Too right. Thats a nudge over five per cent of the population. The record attendance for the club at Brookvale Oval was 14,521 against Cronulla on 21 July 2002. And if you brought back the North Sydney Bears to represent these 600,000 people in the northern suburbs of Sydney - and the 400,000 people of the Central Coast - it would be an instant and irrevocable success. [33], On 5 September 2018, North Sydney announced that they were ending their agreement with South Sydney Rabbitohs to act as their reserve grade side and had signed a 5 year deal to join the Sydney Roosters as their new feeder club team for the 2019 season. See: The Northern Eagles. However, independent research shows the club still has 220,000 avid followers, a huge supporter . Manly Sea Eagles and North Sydney Bears must merge into a 'behemoth' club, says Brad Fittler, Cameron Smith reveals the 'difficulty' of not having a consistent halfback for the 2018 season. North Sydney's Captain-coach in the Grand Final of 1943 was the future doyen of rugby league broadcasters, Frank Hyde. Even more transparent, in a back-arsed sort of way. L.U. To be a part, even if its a minor part, of a northern Sydney nrl club or remain a nswrl leagues club suburban entity? Same-same. Singleton then spoke about the Gold Coast Titans and how their bid beat Singleton's initial bid for a Central Coast team in 2006 saying They had no money and no stadium, and we did have a stadium built for North Sydney. Red & Black Foundation. North Melbourne withdraws from the merger race. Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. Knock On Effect NSW Cup Draw; Harvey Norman Women's Premiership. cost) for the first 12 months, charged as $24 every 4 weeks. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. NRL Round 1 Talking Points - early edition: Whos confident? Norths & Easts. two very financially strong leagues clubs together. The Northern Eagles shared their home games between Brookvale Oval in Sydney and Grahame Park in Gosford. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Our Privacy Policy includes important information about our collection, use and disclosure of your personal information (including to provide you with targeted advertising based on your online activities). Anyway: old mate also said the next step wouldnt be Bears to Perth or the Central Coast or where I reckon, the northern region of Sydney with all those people, but rather Port Moresby, for sweet Mal Meningas sake, because the Australian government would like to use rugby league to do something with regional aid or sufficiency, or something, I dont know. The Great Dane Sep 3, 2018 Prev 1 2 3 4 Next flippikat Bench Messages 3,489 Sep 18, 2018 #21 Hello said: I dont know why they would need to play any games in Brooky or NSO. Nobody would win, not even TV. They both have a point, but how its executed is important. Thus a merge of Sydney Dragon-Sharks would be logical. I had a yarn once with an academic, Hunter Fujak, a Lecturer in Sport Management at Deakin Business School. Consider these northern beaches. Adding a team in Sydney would appear to fly in the face of the theres too many teams in Sydney argument. Florimo then went on to say "I don't see too many other options presenting themselves, The energy and finance that we put into the Central Coast bid really didn't come to fruition so we're going hard to the plate on this". MORE:Cameron Smith reveals the 'difficulty' of not having a consistent halfback for the 2018 season. Bring Back The Bears! Missed out. North Sydney Bears. with other sports fans, Please enter your credit or debit card details below. They love that place. The club initially struggled to obtain access to North Sydney Oval, but council obstruction was removed and the Shoremen played their first real home game in 1910. Full Digital Access 12 Month Plan costs $208 (min.cost) for the first 12 months, charged as $16 every 4 weeks. North Sydney chose to join the temporary Presidents Cup competition which involved teams from country New South Wales and the Ron Massey Cup. As of 2014, there have been several attempts for the Bears to come back into the NRL by being based at the Central Coast, North Sydney, Perth, Gold Coast and Brisbane. The loss was evidently too much for me, and I began to cry. Norths player Drew Hutchison also had a bad match kicking two goals from six attempts including one from right in front to send the game into extra-time. Our club is a 1908 foundation club,". [44] They were aiming for 5,000 by March 2011, when the official bid was due to be handed in to the NRL but passed that mark in 2010. Only Parramatta (890,000) and Wests Tigers (690,000) have a larger catchment than the Bears would have. After Norths were booted out of the bad marriage, mates of mine havent been to a league game since. And youd only need one in 20 of these people to buy a jumper, go to a game, whack a sticker on the back of their Pajero and boom, theyve brought back the North Sydney Bears. Relocation disenchants and disenfranchise existing fans, while new ones get a sort of half-arsed mob from somewhere else. Manly's licence is redistributed to a WA or Bris2 franchise. At the end of the 2019 Canterbury Cup NSW regular season, Norths finished third on the table and qualified for the finals. Sign up successfully. Port Moresby, for sweet Mal Meningas sake, because the Australian government would like to use rugby league to do something with regional aid or sufficiency, or something, I dont know, I didnt hear much more of his explanation because I was gob-dangling speechless that old mate was actually talking about Papua New bloody Guinea as a dinkum locale for a red-and-black comeback. They have also been affiliated with the New Zealand Warriors, the South Sydney Rabbitohs and the Melbourne Storm in the past.[23]. Perth team? North Sydney reportedly placed a $7 million bid to purchase The Gold Coast Licence and as part of the bid if they were to be successful was to rename the side The Gold Coast Bears and continue to play games at Robina plus taking two games to North Sydney Oval with one game being held against fierce rivals The Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles. Not sure how many of those boxes the Port Moresby Bears would tick, but Id hazard a guess its none. Theyre not just a floating entity that sells merch. Consider: six hundred thousand people live from Kirribilli to Hornsby Heights, from the Roseville Bridge to north-west Ryde. ll never forget the first time the Bears caused me pain. Victory may be close, but the Bears do know how to make it hard. Earlier this year there were reports the Bears were attempting to organise a consortium that will make a bid to purchase the NRL license off the Manly Sea Eagles. Bears are now officially the feeder club for the Roosters for the next 5 years starting 2019. The winner of the match was to play minor premiers Manly in The Grand final. The Bears bid committee is lobbying the NRL for inclusion as the next expansion team. featured alongside some of Australias most prominent sports journalists. There are so many players play up there, so you can get the best kids aspiring to play for the Central Coast". Get five per cent of Northern Sydney to a North Sydney Bears game and that's 50,000 citizens. It would mean joining forces with the North Sydney Bears who have been desperate to get in the NRL since their exit at the end of the 1999 season. North Sydney chairman Perry Lopez said of the deal "We are the North Sydney Bears, were not South Sydney," The decision is based on whats best for our club. Northern Eagles: as if a dog and a cat got married. Policy played out in the court of public opinion; its how we roll in the twenties. No cancellations during the first 12 months. People follow footy teams largely because the team represents them, their patch, their people. [43], The Central Coast Bears have 7,200 financial members with new members joining weekly. Big question would be do you brand the new merged club as one, both or neither of the two co-owners? We want to see it! There are plans to again be part of the NRL in coming years as the Central Coast Bears. Once again they were eliminated from the finals after losing both their matches in consecutive weeks,. Follow the Bears. He enjoys golf, footy and Four Pines Pale Ale, and spends as much time as conscience allows at Long Reef GC. Its from that place. Souths: 390,000. Maybe not instant. But moot it they did, these people in suits, because television told them. While the Dolphins will. [13] That year they came within one match of the grand final but lost to Canberra. The Roosters 200,000. How long does it take for my home delivery to start? And there are lots and lots and lots of eyeballs. L.U. Commercial viability. And he said the NRL told these guys not to use the media to play things out. Also, the new club's decision to play games in Gosford instead of the Bears home ground at North Sydney Oval alienated several North Sydney fans, despite North Sydney's planned move to the new Central Coast Stadium, which had been rebuilt for the Bears on the site of the old Grahame Park ground. Manly officially returned to the NRL in 2003 (playing out of Brookvale Oval, though they played at least two games per season in Gosford until 2015) and have since played in four NRL Grand Finals (2007, 2008, 2011 and 2013), winning the premiership in 2008 and 2011. With only seconds remaining Norths frantically threw the ball around and lost it, the ball was swooped up by Newcastle's Owen Craigie and he raced away to score a try and won the game. But theyd be into, the northern Sydney Bear people, all six hundred thousand of em, or whatever percentage the NRL could plane off and declare allegiance, and consume the club and love it one way or many. I trudged in the rain with my Mum, Dad, and four uncles, back to the pub Percys across Miller Street. Jakiya Whitfeld scores a double for North Sydney Bears in her NSW Women's Premiership debut Stars on the rise: The 150 players to watch in the Harold Matthews, SG Ball and Tarsha Gale Cups North Sydney Bears' bold bid for NRL return recieves massive funding, infrastructure boost Another dominate win by our women's team! The only comments appearing to temper matters are those from Dickson himself. The 1990s was a decade of hope for the North Sydney Bears and while it ultimately ended in tears they almost claimed rugby league's ultimate glory along the way. From then on, you can then use Sign In with Google to access your subscription and Google will do the billing for the subscription and process your payments. And if there were Bears people would invest in the Bears, consume the Bears, love the Bears. Cheaper and easier than focus groups. Carney spoke to the media saying "I had that option with the Bears but Souths have blocked that, I'm sure something will come up". After Norths were booted out of the bad marriage, mates of mine havent been to a league game since. Souths: 390,000. They were beaten 20-15 by Weller Hauraki, scoring a controversial try with just 13 seconds to go, which many believed should not have been allowed due to a forward pass. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. Cronulla has 220,000. They last won a premiership in 1993, defeating Newcastle in the grand final 5-4. The joint venture club played out of Brookvale Oval and Central Coast Stadium at Gosford, a ground successfully lobbied and built for the Bears. And was a year late, thats all. [26] On 19 September, it was announced that Ben Gardiner was leaving as coach of the club after two and a half years in charge.[27]. Not in conjunction with any other offer. On 1 July 2018, Carney's move to North Sydney was blocked after Carney refused to pay a $15,000 release fee. Normally a very reliable kicker and one of the most accurate in the competition, Taylor had already missed two previous conversions in the match but if he was to kick this goal it could send North Sydney through to their first grade final since 1943. This is one of those things that wont happen but I do wonder what the future holds for Manly. North Sydney now field a team in the Canterbury Cup NSW, the competition immediately below NRL level, as a feeder to the Sydney Roosters. Former North Sydney player and the club's leading record point scorer Jason Taylor was named as new head coach. These are the ties that bind. And they dont have a footy team to call their own. First it was the Gold Coast Bears. The record attendance for the club was 20,059 for the club's opening game against the Newcastle Knights at Grahame Park on 6 February 2000. Billy Moore, Greg Florimo and a massive bear (left). Earlier in the week, The Australian's. The Official North Sydney Bears. "Never going to happen. Relocating rugby league clubs disenchants new fans and disenfranchises existing ones. An independent voice that will not be influenced by power or money, and will not be silenced by any official heirachy. Supporters of grass roots Rugby League. And have a massive march in March. Become a member to join in Australia's biggest sporting debate, submit articles, receive updates straight to your inbox and keep up with your favourite teams and authors. In the elimination final against Newtown, Norths lost 30-28 even though they scored more tries than the opposition. But like said abominable Northern Eagles, they would be horrible. Its the same in Canberra as the Shire as Townsville TNQ. Towards the end of the war Norths' fortunes improved, playing quality and spectators numbers increased, and they won 2 premierships in 192122 coached by Chris McKivat. "We are here to win games and show our fans a product they can be proud of. The Northern Eagles ultimately didnt represent anyone from Milsons Point to North Turramurra, from west Willoughby to east Epping. Home delivery is not available in all areas. I agree with you but the roosters wont be going anywhere now they are champions. Everyones sold a pup, a homeless hound that nobody owns. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. In the 1996 ARL season Norths came within one match of the Grand Final but lost the game to the St George Dragons 29-12. The Northern Eagles were a rugby league team that competed in the National Rugby League (NRL) between 2000 and 2002. You can read him at his, How to play NRL fantasy: Our top tips for picking the best team to beat your mates, Round 1 team lists Late Mail: Titans star tears ACL, Thompson set to miss season, Roosters duo out, Hynes hobbled. Forge their own identity. Owned by both clubs and with equal represteantion on the board. But once your delivery is activated, youll get the next edition, hot off the press. They knew: tribalism is good. The Bears remain a thing. [7], The 1952 season saw North Sydney reach the finals for the first time since 1943. In 2009, North Sydney lost to Balmain Tigers in extra time to miss out on the Grand Final 1918. North Sydney would be eliminated from the finals in straight sets losing to Penrith and Canterbury. Hes in demand by NRL clubs. The North Sydney Bears is an Australian rugby league football club based in North Sydney, New South Wales. And they could again. [59], After the Northern Eagles went defunct, the North Sydney Bears have continued to field teams in several grades of the NSW rugby league competitions, and were behind the failed Central Coast Bears bid in the mid-2000's. However, no such sentiment appears to exist in Perth. Renewals occur unless cancelled in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. Politicians do the same thing with policy; leak a backbenchers brain-fart to the papers, see how it flies among the populace. The proposed team would play 11 games in Gosford and one game at North Sydney Oval (obviously against Manly as part of a heritage or rivalry round). They love the club. They were eliminated by Balmain in a playoff for 5th place. The partnership folded in 2002, with Manly emerging as the stand-alone entity. New South Wales Origin coach Brad Fittler has suggested the Sea Eagles and Bears combine with the Central Coast region to form a "behemoth" club stretching north from the CBD all the way to Gosford and beyond. Its why they invest in a footy team with themselves, with emotion, with money. However, poor on-field performances and factional fighting led to the collapse of the Northern Eagles in 2002, after only three years. Its a bad merge. Same-same. We used to cry when the Bears won a game! Guttural laughter from my uncles. Deon Apps and Curtis Johnston represented the Bears in the 2011 NSW Residents side with Johnston finishing up leading try scorer for the competition by the end of the regular season with 28 tries, Johnston would play 110 games with the North Sydney NSW Cup scoring 97 tries in 6 seasons. Because eyeballs watching product are all. Newtown went on to beat Balmain in the 2012 NSW Cup Grand Final. Sheesh Teddy you want to move the Roosters to the "Eastern Seabed".The gimps have to breath now and again mate.Bloody hard to knock on or flick pass 100 fathoms below the surface. Poker machine money enabled the first-grade roster some glitz, and though the Curse of the Cammeraygal continued to thwart their premiership hopes, the Bears were nevertheless one of the heavyweight teams of that decade. So bring em back, baby, and fill Percys Bar. Cronulla has 220,000. 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