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So would you read, its called Before, page 46. And it often falls apart from me. like the flag, how it undulates in the wind And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course. inward and the looking up, enough of the gun, the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost, letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and, the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough, of the mother and the child and the father and the child, and enough of the pointing to the world, weary. Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. Find them at, Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels. From Feb 2: three months of soaring conversations to live and grow with with an eye towards emergence. Limn: Yeah. But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. This definitely speaks to that. chaotic track. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, Enough of us across all of our differences see that we have a world to remake. Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. Krista Tippett leaves public radio. Right. Page 40. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or, reading skills. Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. Exactly. unnoticed, sometimes covered up like sorrow. And isnt it strange that breathing is something that we have to get better at? So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. could save the hireling and the slave? And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating. I do think I enjoy it. It sends us back to work with the raw materials of our lives, understanding that these are always the materials even of change at a cosmic or a societal level. And we all have this, our childhood stories. body. That is real but its not the whole story of us. And I want you to read it. Yet what Amanda has gone on to investigate and so, so helpfully illuminate is not just about journalism, or about politics. And we think, Well, what are we supposed to do with that silence? And we read naturally for meaning. It began as "Speaking of Faith" in July 2003, and was renamed On Being in 2010. And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. And then I would be like, Okay, I was there. And the next day Id wake up and be like, Well, I was there yesterday. These are heavier, page 86 and page 87. She is a former host of the poetry podcast The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. Sylvia gifts us this teaching: that nurturing childrens inner lives can be woven into the fabric of our days and that nurturing ourselves is also good for the children and everyone else in our lives. Ada Limn. so mute its almost in another year. Once it has been witnessed But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. A scholar of belonging. A scholar of magic. She grew up loving science fiction, and thought wed be driving flying cars by now; and yet, has found in speculative fiction the transformative force of vision and imagination that might in fact save us. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. A few years ago, Krista hosted an event in Detroit a city in flux on the theme of raising children. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. Limn: Yeah. Yeah. Transcription by Alletta Cooper Krista Tippett: I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. Tune in now. Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? The bright side is not talked about. And I think about that all the time. inward and the looking up, enough of the gun, the collar, constriction of living. And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. When you open the page, theres already silence. And the Q has the tail of a monkey, and weve forgotten this. on all sides with want. Yeah. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk about poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being fully human this adventure were all on that is by turns treacherous and heartbreaking and revelatory and wondrous. It is still the river. scratched and stopped to the original [laughter]. Limn: Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. Patel is a Deseret contributor. Limn: There was a bit of like, Eww, lover. [laughter], Easy light storms in through the window, soft bury yourself in leaves, and wait for a breaking, to the field, something to get through before for all its gross tenderness, a joke told in a sunbeam. Yeah. I think I enjoy getting older. Theres daytime silent when I stare, and nighttime silent when I do things. Tippett: I do feel like you were one of the people who was really writing with care and precision and curiosity about what we were going through. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said, No. Good, good. And then you can also be like, Im a little anxious about this thing thats happening next week. Or all of these things, it makes room for all of those things. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. What was it? Yeah, it was completely unnatural. In generational time, they are stitching relationship across rupture. Copyright 2023. Tippett: To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? Limn: When I lived in New York City, my two best friends, I would always try to get them to go to yoga with me. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. Limn: Not the Saddest Thing in the World, All day I feel some itchiness around Tippett: A lot of them are in the On Being studio, they come in the mail. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Dacher Keltner and his Greater Good Science Center at Berkeley have been pivotal in this emergence. This is science that invites us to nourish the brains we need, young and old, to live in this world. tags: curiosity , listening , oral-history , vulnerability. You should take a nap. [laughter] I know its cruel. Subscribe to the live your best life newsletter Sign up for the oprah.com live your best life newsletter Get more stories like this delivered to your inbox Get updates on your favorite . She created and hosts the public radio program and podcast On Being . Come back, enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. [Music: Molerider by Blue Dot Sessions]. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. Yeah. No, theres so much to enjoy. but I was loved each place. and gloss. I was actually born at home. And shes animated by questions emerging from those loves and from the science she does which we scarcely know how to take seriously amidst so much demoralizing bad ecological news. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. So how to get out? And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. a certain light does a certain thing, enough But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. Yeah, Ive got a lot of feelings moving through me. If you think about it, its not a good Then three years later, Tippett left American Public Media to create her own production company, Krista Tippett Public Productions, which has aligned with WNYC/New York Public Radio to distribute the show to affiliates nationwide. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. Limn: Yes. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. Im like, Yes. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. Tippett: And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. the pummeling of youth. Actually, thats in. Find Krista Tippett's email address, contact information, LinkedIn, Twitter, other social media and more. The great eye. They are honoring and recovering the fullness of the human experience the life of the mind, the truth of the body, the wild mystery of the spirit, and our need for each other. Before the apple tree. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking Lean Spirituality. What were talking about and not when we talk about mental health. Or, Im suffering, or Right. So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. adrienne maree brown "We are in a time of new suns" On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture "What a time to be alive," adrienne maree brown has written. the truth is every song of this country And this, it turns out, is also a primary source of his tethering in values. At human pace, they are enlivening the world that they can see and touch. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. And there are times where I think people have said as a child, Oh, you come from a broken home. And I remember thinking, Its not broken, its just bigger. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. I write the year, seems like a year you even the tenacious high school band off key. The people who gather around On Being are part of the generative narrative of our time. April 4, 2008. And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. Tippett: Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. Limn: And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. The British psychologist Kimberley Wilson works in the emergent field of whole body mental health, one of the most astonishing frontiers we are on as a species. I love that you do this. I trust those moments where it feels like, Oh, right, this is a weird. Language is strange, and its evolving. But I love it. And I think when were talking about this, were talking about who we are right now, because were all carrying this. I have your books, and theres some, too. If youre having trouble writing or creating or whatever it is you make, when was the last time you just sat in silence with yourself and listened to what was happening? I think thats something we didnt know how to talk about. how the wind shakes a tree in a storm I do feel like you were one of the people who was really writing with care and precision and curiosity about what we were going through. The one that always misses where Im not, I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. Tippett: And that is so much more present with us all the time. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. Tippett: Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? Yeah. Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?, And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is?. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. Because I love this poem, and no one has ever asked me to read this poem. Its wonderful. Limn: [laughs] Yeah. No, to the rising tides. And there are times where I think people have said as a child, Oh, you come from a broken home. And I remember thinking, Its not broken, its just bigger. red glare and then there are the bombs. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine., Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Yeah. Yeah. On Being with Krista Tippett. I could. Tippett: And this is about your childhood, right? We literally. Sometimes it feels like language and poetry, I often start with sounds. We value the ancient power of storytelling, and we get that good stories require conflict, characters and scene. And then I would say in terms of the sacred, it was always the natural world. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. I never go there very much anymore. [laughter] Were like, Ugh, I feel calmer.. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. And so its giving room to have those failures be a breaking open and for someone else to stand in it and bring whatever they want to it. kitchen tables, two sets of rules, two And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. My body is for me. [audience laughter] And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. My grandmother is 98. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. Limn: Yeah. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, enough of the will to go on and not go on or how, a certain light does a certain thing, enough, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking. Because there are a lot of unhelpful things that have been told to me. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. Yeah. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us, breath to breath and hour to hour, as much in who we are and how we are present as in whatever we do. , and its a villanelle, so its got a very strict rhyme scheme. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. the nectar lovers, and we Shes teaching me a lesson. 10 distinct works Similar authors. And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. Maybe that speaks for itself. A friend Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Tippett: Thank you. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. Its a prose poem. We were brought together in a collaboration between Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Milkweed Editions. And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. I dont expect you to have the page number memorized. love it again, until the song in your mouth feels And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. hoping our team wins. That just took me back to this moment in the pandemic where I took so many walks in my neighborhood that Ive lived in for so many years and saw things Id never seen before, including these massive Just suddenly looking down where the trees were and seeing and understanding, just really having this moment where I understood that its their neighborhood and Im living in it. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. Listen Download Transcript. And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. Yeah, I had a moment where I hadnt realized how delighted I was to go about my world without my body. And for us, it was Sundays. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, The On Being Project Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? , the galley in the mail from Milkweed. Krista Tippett (2) Rsultats tris par. And were you writing The Hurting Kind during the pandemic and lockdown? Its the thing that keeps us alive. So I think were going to just have a lot of poetry tonight. Tippett: Thats so wonderful. Tippett: Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called "Complicating the Narratives," which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. I'm not often one for Schadenfreude, but I may have felt it a bit yesterday, when friend told me that they'd heard NPR announce that Krista Tippett 's "On Being" Show, which I've railed against for years, is finally ending its two-decade stint on NPR. Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. On Being, which began on public radio, has been named a best podcast by The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, the Webbys, iHeart Radio with more than 400 million downloads. and then, No, really I was. You boiled it down. Unknown. Tippett: And then Joint Custody from The Hurting Kind. But in the present era of tribalism, it feels like weve reached our collective limitations Again and again, we have escalated the conflict and snuffed the complexity out of the conversation.. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. And then I kept thinking, What are the other things I can do that with?. The one that always misses where Im not. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. in the ground, under the feast up above. Yeah. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. days a little hazy with fever and waiting Tippett: I guess maybe you had to quit doing that since you had this new job. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. and hand, the space between. song. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. But I think the biggest thing for me is to begin with silence. The listener wants to understand the humanity behind the words of the other, and patiently summons one's own best self and one's own best words and questions.". lover, come back to the five-and-dime. Ada Limn reads her poem, "Dead Stars.". The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. And the right habitat for that, for all human flourishing, is for us to begin with a sense of belonging, with a sense of ease, with a sense that even though we are desirous and even though we want all of these things, right now, being alive, being human is enough. Funny thing about grief, its hold And I am so thrilled to have this conversation with Ada Limn to be part of our first season. And it says, You are here. And I felt like every day Id write a poem was literally putting that little, You are here dot on a map. Because how do we care for one another? So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. Tippett: You see what I did? nest rigged high in the maple. recycling bin until you say, Man, we should really learn I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. So I think thats where, for me, I found any sort of sense of spirituality or belonging. is so bright and determined like a flame, And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. [Laughter] I feel like I could hear that response, right? This is amazing. You may also catch references to things seen and witnessed throughout the event including a stunning opening poem by our dear friend Maria Popova, composed of On Being show titles which you can take in fully by viewing the recorded celebration in its entirety on our YouTube channel. for the safety of others, for earth, We hold each other. I feel like I could hear that response, right? Definitely. The wonder of biomimicry. Thats the work of poetry in general, right? So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. and the stoic farmer and faith and our father and tis When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. of the world is both gaze Each of us imprints the people in the world around us . The On Being Project But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. You ever think you could cry so hard An accomplished journalist, author, and entrepreneur, she was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2014. fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. This is a moving and edifying conversation that is also, not surprisingly, a lot of fun. Tippett: But we dont need to belabor that. Amidst all of the perspectives and arguments around our ecological future, this much is true: we are not in the natural world we are part of it. Nothing, nothing is funny. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. On Being is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. Tippett: I think grief is something that is very We have so much to grieve even as we have so much to walk towards. And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. We think were divided by issues, arguing about conflicting facts. And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our Foundations for Being Alive Now. Between. Its still the elements. So well just be on an adventure together. I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. Written and read by We want to meet what is hard and hurting. Great poetry podcast for a while and most beloved shows of this world. Raising children other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing start to be made whole/ by Being a. We didnt know how to talk about any of the limits of,. That is also, not surprisingly, a lot of feelings moving me. 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