I do encourage more investigation and I hope Justice is somehow given to all those harmed by the take down of Fisher More College. Quite honestly, few of us can giggle today, no? Priest: Fr Gerard Saguto FSSP. But we preach Christ and Him crucified. Tulsa, OK For example, was the will of the Father being expressed when Pope Alexander VI turned to one of his females friends and requested Well, you get the point. Gerard Saguto, FSSP was born and lived on Long Island, where his mother continues to live. If he so desired, in this year of mercy, to also grant them jurisdiction, TMAHICH could do so. Gerard Saguto, admits that further explanation regarding Fr. Dear Scott, Getting information out of Poland was very difficult for a long time. May God love you. The way they advise individuals is highly personalized. As this unfolds, we lose sight of the individual trees that make up the forest. Take any good news with a grain of salt when it comes from modernists. The Holy See, FSSP Apostolates Richard M, http://theradicalcatholic.blogspot.com/2015/09/vortex-of-plagiarism.html. Naples, FL FORT WAYNE. In the meantime, Im glad to say that I now fully support you and have put my money where my mouth is. We have not yet seen Justice in the Fisher Moore College scandal. We have been baptized into Christs death, the greatest act of love ever displayed and graciously made available to all. Jeremy Palman. john6, The suit states Father Bouchard's accuser submitted a handwritten note to the diocese on Sept. 26, 2018, alleging that Father Bouchard "asked him to undress and made inappropriate sexual . All evil? King and Drumm seemed to want it both ways. Catholics are watching and waiting. And this goes unchallenged! Nor is it a challenge or personal attack on anyone reading this. The Radical Catholic blog has confirmed from CMTV that Voris and CMTV plagiarized the sermon of a Priest of the FSSP in his attack on the SSPX. This is not the place to debate the sedavacantist position. Minneapolis, MN Joseph Terra (hes the FSSP priest who was badly beaten in the attack in Phoenix that killed Fr. They are not coming out with press releases, video responses and challenges, threats to sue, etc. It doesnt take a Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots, folks. This is, however, a multi-edged sword. We are blessed to be able to host Fr. Checks can be written to "Mission Tradition." New - Meal Train - Calling all those who want to grow in love of neighbor! Will the FSSP issue a public statement in support of the SSPX and debunk the schism myth? Barbara ChurchMilitant and M. Voris started this. ), Even though Im not real keen on the idea of expending a great deal of energy parsing the criticisms of a man who is so clearly motivated by an agenda that has nothing whatsoever to do with seeking and telling the truth. Pequannock, NJ If there is a so-called "schism" next month, that will affect the Modernist Sect which occupies diocesan parishes everywhere only. I have very good reasons for my feelings towards your beloved order. Heres the truth: The SSPX refuses to sign a statement saying the Vatican II is an integral part of the tradition of the Church. It is this to which they refuse to submit, not the legitimate authority of the pope. I have a great devotion to our lords most sacred heart i go mass first fridays make a few holy hours in the week recite the litany of sacred heart etc , i kept coming across the argument , its replacing devotion to the sacred heart which in my case wasnt true. Priest Training Workshops So if, in responding to you here, anything comes off that way- know its not intentional. El Paso, TX I love piokolby and others here enough to point out that they may be sinning themselves by their polemics and lack of prudent speech. Finding little support, the faith infused at Baptism is stifled and choked by the thorns of the world, and it becomes easy to drift away. What they ultimately have lacked, though, is a real sense of contact, intrigue, and love with a Person. It can be done, but always with a view that charity is the FIRST item ticked off. Calgary, AB What went on at Fisher Moore College is not known. The rest would be for a forum. I know a fair number of Fraternity priests, and they are among the finest priests I have ever met. Fr. God love you! Either one is a Catholic or a heretic. Perhaps bc of those such as yourself who have been poorly & even cruelly treated by a sedevacantist somewhere along the line, some proceed to make vast generalizations. Take a trip over to Novus Ordo Watch to learn about the actual truth of things, not watered down, but assuming those with a genuine sense of the faith will be given the grace to handle it. Look, if Michael had a genuine change of heart such that he now feels compelled to change his previous (and well disseminated) stance of these matters, he would address them head on. In our Catholic life they are usually priests and bishops and this is being done by many of them. With Advent upon us, the evident threats posed from the secular world compel us all to make concerted efforts to keep Jesus as the reason for the season.. Ive never described myself as an expert on Vatican Council II, but Michael Voris has described me as such, on air, and even ribbed me in a good natured way saying We dont do false humility here when I resisted the idea. I understand there is a diabolical disorientation going on, which is difficult for many priests to recover from, but devotion to the divine mercy chaplet only exacerbates the disorientation, I have noted. Faith must begin in Him, for faith is a meeting of two personalities Christ and me. This is beyond disgusting and a lack of charity. these are mostly priests that *belonged* to the SSPX. Kansas City/Westwood, KS Tacoma, WA Little Rock, AR Nor is it a personal attack on you. Fr. They are within the Church. Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. The reason I feel that way, my2cents, is because Ive held the position for decades, hence- bc of the timeframe-in my early years of mothering I met some of the original laity & priests who held the position (who BTW shall at this time remain nameless.) it comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which they experience. You have some excellent points in your comments, but I agree with Mr. Matt on this one. I believe Bishop Morlino just issued a public apology to the SSPX also. 777 Forest St., St. Paul, MN 55106 Shame on the FSSP! Mine is no1. My only point was the Church today is in a dire crisis and the antics of Mr. Voris are the least of our problems. Apr 20, 2020. The central issue & question to be asked is: Is that religion which is currently observed in Vatican overseen dioceses worldwide the Catholic religion? Baptism and Confirmation have left an indelible mark on our souls that can never be erased, courtesy of the Holy Ghost, from which Christ identifies us as citizens of His Kingdom and belonging to Him. As such, he looked upon the SSPX and its purpose for existing with, if not with support, a degree of understanding that is now nonexistent. Im pretty much thinking the same thing. Over 160 bishops in your country and 6 in mine, along with dozens of others around the world have invited this Society of St. Peter into their diocese. A distinction must be made when speaking about the FSSP. Gerard Saguto (US District Superior) and Fr. I say that sincerely, recognizing my own faults and shortcomings which may have led to giving this false impression. Thank you. Nor are they interested in hearing the kind of drivel spewed out by piokolby, rich and others. The full details of what happened at Fisher Moore College need to be made public. Very dear and close friends, who fought side by side with me and my family to defend the Catholic faith, have literally turned their backs on us and pretend they never even knew us. Nashua, NH make use of all the sacraments in the (old rite) at places like the FFSP , ICKSP etc this is where it can become a little complicated while these places offer all sacraments in the (old rite) they are in what we hear voris and others saying full communion with/under rome meaning that they are under the jurisdiction of the local bishop and cant/dont attack issues like the second vatican council. Im the same age as the Pope but even Fr. Edmonton, AB May God reward you for all your kind generosity! than we do. Fawning over Paul VI, Divine Mercy blather & countless other things. Dayton, OH Catholics who go to SSPX chapels: Are you so incredibly certain of your case that that priest is not being disobedient. This is sophomoric at best. marian, They do not understand epikeia at all it seems to me. It might seem like a small misfortune, but that Colleges demise illustrates in spades the traps awaiting any future independent and stridently Catholic apostolate that seeks to foster unity among the trad diaspora. Nor are they interested in arguments. And yet magically, come midnight Dec. 8, 2015, zilch will, according to the pope, turn into the jurisdiction necessary to validly and licitly hear confessions and offer absolution. Lincoln, NE I understand the point you're trying to make when you state that people thought the same of the Great & Venerated Saint Who ate locusts & foretold the Coming of the Redeemer and they did. me) Die for Him? [Jesus: The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. All of us have a duties as Catholics. Faith is a gift. 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. Call Father Wolfe and ask him about the SSPX! 2:00pm Keynote Speaker - Jeffrey Ostrowski. financially, the college was always on life support. I found it on the New Liturgical Movement website. ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. Catholics are watching and waiting. The threats certainly have increased in intensity in recent years; even the lukewarm Christian can sense this and perhaps feels the need to join in the resistance and push back. It was not accepted due to faulty translations. http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false158.htm MEMORIALS. (1) This is the price for full communion, There is no such thing as partial communion. Regarding group #5, you said 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. With only a vague sense of her origins and history, and an anemic experience with the institutional aspect of the Church, many Catholics indeed tend to view the Church as a sum of commands and rules, imposing a morality that they find outdated or even impossible. Voris linked directly to the FSSP site in Scotland in his attacks on Catholics in the SSPX. I think Novus Ordo Traditionalists, in my opinion are generally of goodwill, but actually end up causing scandal through false obedience. FSSP NA on YouTube Gerard Saguto, FSSP, and the liturgical artist, Mr. Paul Sirba. While it had varied levels of success, it was an interesting approach, because this reality of the Catholic Church as a home often escapes Catholics when they consider what the Church actually is. Dear DeMaria and my2cents, Little Rock, AR Refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff by the Society can be seen in their refusal to reconcile and place themselves under the authority of the Vicar of Christ, rejecting his dogmatically defined full power of shepherding, ruling and governing the universal Church, a power ordinary and immediate over all the churches and over each and every member of the faithful.. While the subjective options of Priests and the subjective problems of are friends are real and important the real questions are one of doctrine,principle and new mass. Not good enough for some here. Clarkdale, AZ You should do your homework and talk to someone on the inside before you repeat the biased assertions of Taylor Marshall. Most professed Novus Ordites and, indeed, any who recognise in a Heresiarch a pope, live in a sort of miasma where evidence does not rule the position, the position rules the evidence. Unfortunately Voris has much in common with the SSPX in this way. Questions: Fulton Sheen coins Him, living in the Church that seeks to unite her members and remain the constant inspiration for our holiness and mutual forgiveness. The glad tidings of Christmas should be obvious to anyone who believes. The only people that ran anywhere were the faithless and feckless fools who, many unknowingly, just accepted the Council and the new Mass as gifts from Almighty God. If you dont mind-consider a few thingsyou dont have to respond-this is not a challenge. Confraternity of Saint Peter. Lets revisit what Voris (and Fr. Atlanta, GA 09:00am Holy Mass - Extraordinary Form*. In the end, Michael can protest that Terry Carrolls money has no part in this all he wants, but only a willing fool can believe it. I am an FSSP parishioner who travels a lot. The Church is in a grave crisis, and we all have to make our own way for the sake of our souls and those of our families. I witnessed their fine example of Catholic kindness, involvement & charity toward those who disagreed with them. And for conversions we pray for, remember that among the Christian denominations there is only one Baptism it belongs to the Catholic Church so ask the Holy Ghost to stir up in them the courage to see where the blind spots are in their profession of faith. It must be pointed out that validity is not the central issue. Theres an old definition of fanatic as someone who can change neither his mind, nor the subject. Peace be to you. Eric Flood, FSSP, who served in that position for the last . There is enough hurt going around from anti-Catholics both outside and inside the Church, without throwing daggers at each other. I am glad to be able to stay on course with what Louie provides here. San Diego, CA Saguto is FSSPDistrict Superior in the United States: Insanity has been described as "doing the same over and over while expecting different results." Time and again I have tried to make clear that pocket recordings do not faithfully reproduce choral sound. Then I would place bells and whistles around the comment! With regard to the heresy of Modernism running rampant & the Modernist Sect of which Bergoglio is head which occupies what were once Catholic parishes, it takes weeks, months, years to comprehend all that. What exactly is a Novus Ordo Traditionalist? Someone who favors a reform of the Reform N.O., or someone who attends a TLM as authorized under Summorum Pontificum? Yet, he sticks with it like glue. Since becoming a sedevacantist, I have broken contact w/many of my family who consider themselves to be traditional catholics even as they stopped believing in confession when they were in college, attended mass whenever they feel like it, but always go to communion, are sterilized, use birth control, are divorced and remarried, are pro-abortion, are pro-homosexual marriage, dont believe anyone is going to hell, believe everyone is saved w/out being baptized or Catholic, are married to unbaptized persons, never go to mass, raise their children w/these values, never prayed the rosary with their children who are now 35 etc. Prior to working at CNA, she was the managing web editor of Townhall.com; she has a BA in. Hello john6. Brookville, IN But when we try to support one when it does emerge, we have to be clear in holding them up to high standards of governance. Fr. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz close friend of the FSSP and has does many ordinations for them excommunicated the SSPX in his diocese. IMHO, no one is going to learn anything about the Faith here in this combox or any other. That is something to be most thankful for. Clearly many of them have the Faith and are holy. I was still reading his blog almost daily when it all transpired, and can remember it not sitting well with me after hearing his explanations. For once youre ranting, raving & complaining about something other than us evil sedevacantists! Views and opinions expressed in the Missive are solely the writers and do not necessarily reflect those of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. Not even one? We start to get sloppy; our fallen tendency to search out the path of least resistance becomes more insistent. Father Wolfe has been transferred in the normal round of these and is obviously needed elsewhere. Good people do not go along w/heresy. 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